tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.comments2023-05-21T04:15:56.050-05:00Flatland ApologeticsShelby Cadehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03283839806468851849noreply@blogger.comBlogger159125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-19566243098942305492014-02-17T00:20:37.331-06:002014-02-17T00:20:37.331-06:00Thank You Somewhat Serious for the comment. I have...Thank You Somewhat Serious for the comment. I have flat out not had time to keep up with my blog. I hope I can get back into it. I would really like to address that blog, which I found interesting. Skimming it, I found some typical ad hominem problems with the article. Hopefully, I can find time to respond fully to what was said. Thanks again for your comment.Shelby Cadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03283839806468851849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-78796354081200877942014-01-03T17:36:44.437-06:002014-01-03T17:36:44.437-06:00Just wondering, what are your thoughts on this art...Just wondering, what are your thoughts on this article for hallucinations?<br /><br />http://adversusapologetica.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/1-corinthians-15-and-the-500-witnesses/<br /><br />Like this part: "For more information about this, see Keith Parsons’ “Peter Kreeft and Ronald Tacelli on the Hallucination Theory” in The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond The Grave. Parsons (pg. 436-7) provides an incident of a far larger group than the supposed group of 500 that was reliably documented, rather than relayed through hearsay via Paul, where thousands claimed to witness a miracle at one time: “Mass delusions may be directly witnessed as they occur. When, a few years ago, a woman in Conyers, Georgia, began to claim regular visitations from the Virgin Mary, tens of thousands of faithful would gather monthly to hear the banal ‘revelations.’ While the Virgin was allegedly making her disclosures many of those attending claimed to witness remarkable things, such as the sun spinning and dancing in the sky. A personal friend, Rebecca Long, president of the Georgia Skeptics, set up a telescope with a solar filter, and demonstrated – to anyone that cared to look – that the sun was not spinning or dancing. Still, hundreds around her continued to claim that they were witnessing a miracle.”"Somewhat Studioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16558384937426711608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-29289605067626357942013-10-07T00:00:14.212-05:002013-10-07T00:00:14.212-05:00The third and most important question isn't ev...The third and most important question isn't even addressed by science. Why? Why is there a me? And why do I even exist? To simply say that I am here because of a chemical reaction between molecules only answers perhaps, how I came to exist. It gives me no comfort and no satisfaction in life. I for one need a why. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-1817062580976206772013-08-06T01:19:27.318-05:002013-08-06T01:19:27.318-05:00Life can have meaning without God. The meaning of...Life can have meaning without God. The meaning of life could simply be to help one another cope and get through this horrible hell hole of life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17355310638515991893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-38727277969886859792013-07-21T22:37:04.121-05:002013-07-21T22:37:04.121-05:00Not bad. A McScientist, though, would argue that s...Not bad. A McScientist, though, would argue that science deals with what we can see, hear, taste, smell, and touch/feel. We are limited to those five senses. What we INTUIT is based on the brain's advanced ability to put two and two together quickly and quietly in the background. Therefore, what is this "supernatural" of which you speak? Even those who spoke of God didn't speak of anything that can't be accounted for by scientific and reasonable explanations. "God" speaking to someone's heart is just simply a projection of their own inner psychoses interacting with other ideas about what God is like. So not too unlike an imaginary friend that has definite boundaries a community might subscribe to.Mar Komushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211717333258363662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-10331299323723234742013-07-12T12:05:30.661-05:002013-07-12T12:05:30.661-05:00Michael,
Actually, the empty grave and hundreds of...Michael,<br />Actually, the empty grave and hundreds of eyewitnesses did testify to the resurrection. It is the claims of the stolen body, the theory of mass hallucination, the theory of twin that make no offering of credible proof.<br /><br />Do not mistake the dismissal of the claims and testimonies of the followers of Jesus by the weak counter offerings as a shifting of the burden of proof. Each of these claims needs to present the evidence that supports its belief, not just the presentation of an opposing idea. John A Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777330742400065045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-31387815433464544552013-03-30T16:12:00.268-05:002013-03-30T16:12:00.268-05:00The only evidence against Jesus' resurrection ...The only evidence against Jesus' resurrection is sanity and clear thinking. If one is conscious enough to not believe in ghost stories then one is conscious enough to see that the resurrection fable is as true or real as Santa Claus. <br /><br />Why do Christians dilute the power of the message of one of the greatest men who ever lived by insisting on the truth of supernatural mumbo jumbo written before the birth of modern science? <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07781798314250023580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-29296845200026482242013-03-10T17:19:49.111-05:002013-03-10T17:19:49.111-05:00Another thing is the hypocrisy that comes out the ...Another thing is the hypocrisy that comes out the mouth of every single religious person. If the bible is truth, then you believe in unicorns (Job), talking snakes (genesis) support infanticide (psalm 137), slavery (genesis), forcible rape marriage (deut), not eating pork products (deut), shellfish(same), clothing of multiple fabrics (deut) etc etc As LITERAL FACT! Also, picking and choosing various rules.....its all so hypocritical. That's why I am an atheist. I simply read the bibleAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12345869345684499835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-81441082469396528642013-03-10T17:09:48.711-05:002013-03-10T17:09:48.711-05:00As a former christian turned atheist, I can tell u...As a former christian turned atheist, I can tell u that I never, nor has any atheist ever truly believed in the resurrection story. It doesn't make sense. Jesus was immortal - how could he possibly die? Moreover, we reject the bible. It isn't truth, it's a claim. And a baseless claim at that. Can you truly prove god's existence without using the bible? It goes against every part of your mind that wants to call it out as being utter BS. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12345869345684499835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-62070005314442623152013-03-10T16:52:22.208-05:002013-03-10T16:52:22.208-05:00I have never, not once, ever heard a fellow atheis...I have never, not once, ever heard a fellow atheist say that a Christian has proven the physical resurrection of Jesus. EVER. I don't think you have presented the truth here, I think you're just making up imaginary conversations. There is actually no substantiated proof that your particular Jesus (it was a very common name, after all) existed at all. Please connect to reality.Charlie Cecil Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487403035082986343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-35824473108274329852013-03-04T12:44:03.760-06:002013-03-04T12:44:03.760-06:00When faith is blind faith, and it is such in many ...<i>When</i> faith is blind faith, and it is such in many expressions of religion, then Harris is correct. He makes the assumption that there is no faith that is not blind. But no, truth also asks for faith, and when one knows by reason or experience that something is true, then faith is no longer blind, but is turned into trust instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-73270988625848135992012-08-21T11:50:41.893-05:002012-08-21T11:50:41.893-05:00Well written and thought-out. Thanks for posting.Well written and thought-out. Thanks for posting.reasonsibelievehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339436604355921037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-57520763080985817892012-07-31T20:52:59.891-05:002012-07-31T20:52:59.891-05:00This is shifting the burden of proof. It's up ...This is shifting the burden of proof. It's up to the person making the claim to show that it is true. It is intellectually dishonest to make a claim and attempt to make others disprove it. <br /><br />Can you image a world where the claimant never had the burden of proof? Disprove the Loch Ness monster. Disprove alien abductions. Psychic pets. Elvis is still alive. <br />And for every claim, the person doubting it must show it is false...or else the claimant gets to assert that is must be true.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192720762955409342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-7884033721386712792012-07-09T14:00:22.281-05:002012-07-09T14:00:22.281-05:00"But the hour is coming, and is now here, whe..."But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”<br />(John 4:23-24 ESV)<br /><br />The "God particle" does not answer or explain this cryptic declaration which Jesus made to the woman at the well. <br /><br />Neither does it answer any of my questions about "sin" as described by the Biblical testimony on human nature and history.<br /><br />It does not answer the question of how Jesus was resurrected from being stone cold, dead, for those of us who believe the testimony of those who saw, spoke with and touched Him after He was resurrected.<br /><br /><br />And finally, nothing about the "God particle" offers me comfort in the loneliness of being so small in such a giant Universe.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17411035553499212635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-25833511086084048352012-07-07T19:45:28.255-05:002012-07-07T19:45:28.255-05:00Grundy,
That is the best question I have seen pos...Grundy,<br /><br />That is the best question I have seen posted. My answer is absolutely yes I would convert, if I believed atheism fit the evidence of truth best.Shelby Cadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03283839806468851849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-87969391653626819992012-07-06T23:28:45.753-05:002012-07-06T23:28:45.753-05:00Nice post. In the spirit of open-mindedness, is th...Nice post. In the spirit of open-mindedness, is there anything that would convert you to atheism? Hypothetically.Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-64630769721562621152012-04-06T22:17:03.428-05:002012-04-06T22:17:03.428-05:00I do not believe in God, simply because there is n...I do not believe in God, simply because there is no unequivocal evidence of its existence. So, I'm an atheist! And I can not stand when a Christian says "God exists because I have faith in him." This is ignorance, for the simple fact that I say one thing and not prove it, not just a joke!Marcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00927142054236212873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-63724523026967507972012-04-02T03:37:55.942-05:002012-04-02T03:37:55.942-05:00That about sums it up.That about sums it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-11645908859932575952012-02-06T14:44:10.042-06:002012-02-06T14:44:10.042-06:00Thanks X, I would say to start where they feel co...Thanks X, I would say to start where they feel comfortable. We don't need to start from the Bible. Paul in Acts 17 didn't refer to Scripture one time while conversing with the Stoic and Epicurian philosophers. Using Spcripure would have been confusing and stopped any meaningful dialogue. Paul quoted two poets, so I say start where they are at and ask lots of questions. :-)Shelby Cadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03283839806468851849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-19739388171986507522012-01-06T11:04:24.613-06:002012-01-06T11:04:24.613-06:00Great blog! I stumbled upon it via the Poached Egg...Great blog! I stumbled upon it via the Poached Egg site. I think a lot of Christians - me included - struggle with defending our faith in reasonable conversation. <br /><br />The first question I have is what do you base a discussion on if the other participant(s) discount the validity of the Bible right out of the gate? I've had several dialogs with friends and co-workers who have tried to take the Bible off the table and in effect said, "All your proof is based on the Bible; well, I don't believe the Bible is the Word of God so you can't use it to sustain your point."Xanthorpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12607212106936329296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-80689626597848762522012-01-05T12:25:47.325-06:002012-01-05T12:25:47.325-06:00God is love though and Bell was right to portray H...God is love though and Bell was right to portray Him as such. Paul gives the best description of what Love is in 1 Corinthians 13.<br /><br />http://www.whatthehellbook.com/the-book/whatthehellbookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02130667329818040999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-54366316760461259472012-01-03T01:14:13.190-06:002012-01-03T01:14:13.190-06:00The stance that God is a God of judgment is not bi...The stance that God is a God of judgment is not biblically sound. There is a verse in the NT that clearly states that Jesus will be the judge on that day. Can't recall it off the top of my head, of course, but it's there.Pamelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13652737346135197054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-64492374252971438012011-11-22T20:43:54.084-06:002011-11-22T20:43:54.084-06:00Resurrection of the Body was assured by Jesus, but...Resurrection of the Body was assured by Jesus, but it is a nearly impossible thing to explain. But Edwin Abbott writing Flatland describes how our worlds are built. <br />'Techie Worlds' (available from Amazon) shows how with the Flatland concept, God can easily accomplish the Resurrection of everyone. Jesus, 2,000 years ago, knew how his worlds are really built. And after learning how God does it, you will wonder how anyone ever doubted.<br />George RichterGeorgeRichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13617472632756484543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-81716335827035077442011-11-15T03:07:58.795-06:002011-11-15T03:07:58.795-06:00SopranoJessi, I think it is imperative that you ma...SopranoJessi, I think it is imperative that you maintain a biblical view regardless of your situation or geographical location. If gay marriage is wrong, then it is wrong; in spite of popular belief. If different regulations of the Ramadan celebration are mandated by law in your culture, and they do not go against your beliefs, then you should respect them accordingly. It is when we put government before God that it becomes a problem. What if the month of Ramadan required publicly professing faith in Allah, or something along those lines; would you consider doing that over punishment?K. Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08384899111821862446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1647656873881736118.post-53810790513866793972011-11-05T23:27:05.291-05:002011-11-05T23:27:05.291-05:00Dawnelle,
A more open response would have been to...Dawnelle,<br /><br />A more open response would have been to never bring the subject up. Jeffress was speaking on a political stage and then makes a comment that totally hinders conversation and is not political in nature (IMO). If I were asked, "Is Mormonism a cult?" on a stage such as the one Jeffress had, I would have said that Mormonism falls outside the traditional orthodox beliefs of the Church. You might think this is a cop out, but when you refer to someone as belonging to a cult, it is my opinion that dialogue is severly hindered or completly shut down.Shelby Cadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03283839806468851849noreply@blogger.com